tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8089789578809802571.post164481085879982984..comments2023-06-28T06:55:14.219-04:00Comments on Swann's Pond: Let's talk. IVF.The Swann'shttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03897080926759273403noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8089789578809802571.post-39609214930577713422009-11-21T14:14:07.780-05:002009-11-21T14:14:07.780-05:00My honest opinion is that I would do IUI over IVF ...My honest opinion is that I would do IUI over IVF any day of the week. We weighed how we feel, etc, and decided IUIs were as "advanced" as we were willing to go. It's a personal decision, but I felt like I would weigh in with my opinion.Michelehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17681333723382119281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8089789578809802571.post-3776420172350455002009-11-17T21:27:03.492-05:002009-11-17T21:27:03.492-05:00Thank you so much for your comments!!! I have man...Thank you so much for your comments!!! I have many thoughts on my responses but unfortunately, will have to do that this weekend...The Swann'shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03897080926759273403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8089789578809802571.post-3128253736074091562009-11-17T13:17:43.019-05:002009-11-17T13:17:43.019-05:00I just happened to come across your blog and I am ...I just happened to come across your blog and I am so glad I did. My husband and I have been TTC since April 2008. We have been on fertility treatments since August 2008 because I have severe endometrosis. We have been told by our RE that IVF is our next option. We are not ready emtionally or finacailly for this next step. I am interested to see what you and your husband decide to do. Sorry that I couldn't give you any advice about retrievals.Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16805591707519415542noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8089789578809802571.post-68559511377188793652009-11-16T09:40:30.469-05:002009-11-16T09:40:30.469-05:00Hi Meghan! So excited that you are thinking of mo...Hi Meghan! So excited that you are thinking of moving on to IVF!! And I think your appt is with Dr. P right? You know my opinion of him...love him!! :o) So I have to say I agree with Nicole too...the 4 embryos scenario is super risky!! As I think you saw in mine, Jenny, and Cathy's cycle (and as Nicole mentioned) even if you have a lot of eggs...by the end...the odds are you are NOT going to have a lot of embryos (if any to freeze). My numbers were 17 retrieved, 16 mature and fertilized, 2 transferred on day 5, and 5 snow babies...although honestly we made them freeze ANYTHING they thought might possibly survive...regardless of grade...typically they only freeze grade 1 or 2...so it is likely they will not all survive the thaw, but we didn't believe in just discarding them unless they already stopped dividing...so that is something else to talk to your dr. about b/c they will work with you and your beliefs...and thankfully we were told that ahead of time, b/c normally they just make the decision on which to keep and don't involve you! I would also ask about his thoughts on doing a low stim cycle if you are concerned you're going to produce tons of eggs...so it may not be 4, but atleast it won't be 40+. Just talk to the dr...they do this all the time and I'm sure you aren't the first couple with these fears...I bet he'll have things to recommend too. I'll be praying for you both!! Keep us posted! :o)Maureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06822765438533674466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8089789578809802571.post-46387202941007419862009-11-16T02:23:41.768-05:002009-11-16T02:23:41.768-05:00I have to agree with Nicole. :)I have to agree with Nicole. :)Making Babieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10923461349057226247noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8089789578809802571.post-51771004941612349762009-11-16T01:27:59.266-05:002009-11-16T01:27:59.266-05:00I feel like I came across as being harsh in my fir...I feel like I came across as being harsh in my first comment. That wasn't my intent I promise! Also, I forgot to include my personal results :)<br /><br />IVF #1 (overall, this cycle was the semi-high side of average); Fresh with ICSI day 3 ET<br />35 follies, 23 eggs, 16 mature, 11 fertilized (but not all very good quality). Transfered an 8-cell, grade 2 and a 7-cell grade 2. Froze the rest. BFP, chemical pregnancy aka m/c at 6 weeks<br /><br />IVF #2 (overall, crappy); Frozen cycle, day 5 ET<br />All but two of my embryos died during thaw, and the two survivors were super crappy. BFN<br /><br />IVF #3 (overall fabulous so far!); Fresh with ICSI, day 5 ET<br />42 follies, 25 eggs, 17 mature, 14 fertilized. Transfer 2 blasts (AB and BB) TODAY!! I don't have a freeze report or a beta results yet since the cycle is still in progress. But the embryologist said we'd probably have 2 to freeze<br /><br />I hope you get all the input you desire and that it is all helpful for you and DH. I really just want you to have the best chance possible, pleae don't think I was being mean before. It's just the cold hard ugly truth of infertility. :)Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122362716599059627noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8089789578809802571.post-74285273125703919702009-11-16T00:37:50.227-05:002009-11-16T00:37:50.227-05:00My HONEST opinion (as an IVF veteran of three cycl...My HONEST opinion (as an IVF veteran of three cycles)... please don't be offended, but I don't think sugar coating it will be as helpful to you... is that I think that is a horrible plan. For several reasons:<br />If you produce more than four eggs it is HIGHLY unlikely, and probably unethical, for the doctor to not retrieve them. Point out to hubby that such a course would result in the remainder of your eggs ovulating on their own and then you would have to have a period to flush the unfertilized eggs, which could be bad for your embryos that you transfered. Not to mention having tons of eggs floating around in your ute could mess up your hormone balances, etc. and unoptimize your IVF. <br />There is absolutely no way to predict that you can stimulate only four, that all four will be mature, that all four will ferrtilize and even be available for transfer. <br />The IVF process slims out your options as it goes. You get Y number of follicles. Only x% of those will be mature. Then only z% of those will fertilize. Then only t% of those will be any good. You will transfer however many (2 is the standard quantity and most REs refuse to do more unless you have extenuating circumstances like 'advanced age', or all your embryos aren't great quality), and still only n% of your leftovers will be freeze quality. <br />YOU WANT SOME FROZEN IN CASE THE FRESH CYCLE DOESN'T WORK!! TRust me, a frozen cycle is much cheaper, easier, less stressful, less invasive, and quicker than a fresh. And what if you want a second baby later? If you are investing in TTC enough to do IVF, please save us the $500-700 dollars that cyropreservation and storage for a year ot two costs. It is pennies in a bucket compared to what it would cost you to retry IVF. And that's only financially, not to mention the heartbreak of having to retry from scratch.<br />I don't know you well to know what your family plans are or anything, so please don't take offense to this comment :) It's just my thoughts on "the FOUR plan". <br />I've done this three times myself and followed dozens of people stories through IVF. I bet this FOUR girl at DH's work only had four eggs and was the 1 in a million case who got all mature and all fertilized and three took. That's RARE. <br />BUT... in the end you should do what you guys think is best for yourselves. Just make sure you consult in detail with your doctor and make a well educated decision. Hooray for your Feb appt! Exciting! :) Best of luck to you!Nicolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122362716599059627noreply@blogger.com